Show Notes
Episode 200. Alex Pretti, ICE, and the Second Amendment Smokescreen
In this episode of the Forge of Freedom podcast, host Alex Ooley delves into the complex case of Alex Pretti, who was shot by federal agents during an immigration enforcement operation. Ooley discusses the nuances of the incident, the legal standards surrounding the use of deadly force, and the implications of the actions taken by both Pretti and law enforcement. Through a detailed analysis of video evidence and legal principles, he explores the challenges in determining the justification of the shooting and the broader societal implications of such incidents.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Alex Pretti Shooting
03:28 Setting the Stage: The Incident Overview
09:12 Legal Standards for Police Use of Deadly Force
18:25 Analyzing the Video Evidence
25:24 Conclusions and Implications of the Shooting
26:07 Justifying Use of Force
28:53 The Role of Perception in High-Stress Situations
34:33 Analyzing the Escalation of Events
38:18 Mistakes on Both Sides
43:10 Government Messaging and Public Perception
Resources
Videos Referenced
https://picoshare.relativelyprivate.com/-cSuYZNgCkK/B16B29BF-F136-4C4D-A94B-5B04B5B61A8E.mp4
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/footage_of_the_grey_coat_officer_retrieving_the/
https://picoshare.relativelyprivate.com/-E3nk9KZKTE/E6317EB7-E5E6-4DB7-98C2-9EBF36835C1C.mp4
CNN Video
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/29/us/video/ebof-alex-pretti-shooting-analysis-gianni-toboni
USA Today (featuring Rob Pincus)
Amy Swearer
Andrew Branca
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QT_tSHYo6U
John Correia (Active Self Protection)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRl_BNfgIHo
Tom Grieve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFSBPEQYSFE
John Bryan & Patrick Jaicomo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RHdJdRp-6c
Guy Relford (@guyrelford)
https://omny.fm/shows/the-gun-guy-podcast/the-gun-guy-full-show-02-07-2026?in_playlist=podcast
Jury Instructions re Force
https://juryinstructions.ca8.uscourts.gov/instructions/criminal/Criminal-Jury-Instructions.pdf
https://juryinstructions.ca8.uscourts.gov/
18 U.S.C. 111
https://www.cato.org/blog/second-amendment-meaningless-government-can-kill-you-exercising-it
Graham v. Connor
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/490/386/
Tennessee v. Garner
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/471/1/
In re Neagle
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/135/1/
X posts
https://x.com/tenthamendment/status/2017006645944152251?s=43
https://x.com/Guntalk/status/2016150523406385604
https://x.com/fmrrepmtg/status/2015421468423729606?s=43
https://x.com/realspikecohen/status/2015212934780145771?s=43
https://x.com/TheBrancaShow/status/2015188635876766090
https://x.com/rapidresponse47/status/2015191400740995356?s=43
https://x.com/GunOwners/status/2018485712081891440
https://x.com/DHSgov/status/2015115351797780500
https://x.com/StephenM/status/2015127971485413805
https://x.com/thereal_SnS/status/2015575046404653276
https://x.com/USAttyEssayli/status/2015121052201087371
https://x.com/Acyn/status/2016207658622320795
https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/2015200598161797173
DHS Use of Force Policy
Keywords
Alex Pretti, law enforcement, deadly force, Second Amendment, legal standards, immigration enforcement, police shooting, burden of proof, video analysis, public perception
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