Episode 100. Involuntary Manslaughter: The Conviction of Jennifer Crumbley, Safe Storage Laws, and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

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Episode 100. Involuntary Manslaughter: The Conviction of Jennifer Crumbley, Safe Storage Laws, and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

 

In this episode, host Alex Ooley, discusses the case of Jennifer Crumbley, who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter for the actions of her son, who killed four people at Oxford High School in Michigan. The case raises questions about the criminal liability of parents for the actions of their children. Alex also explains the different states of mind in criminal cases and the higher burden of proof required in criminal prosecutions. He also discusses the implications of safe storage laws and the importance of personal responsibility in preventing tragedies. The episode concludes with a call to preserve individual freedom and spread the message of liberty.

 

Takeaways

• Criminal cases require a higher burden of proof and different states of mind must be proven, such as intent or negligence.
• Safe storage laws, while well-intentioned, may have unintended consequences and can embolden criminals.
• Personal responsibility, including arming teachers, can be an effective deterrent to mass killings.
• Preserving individual freedom and spreading the message of liberty is crucial in preventing the erosion of rights.

 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Case

02:27 Criminal Liability of Parents

03:22 Higher Burden of Proof in Criminal Cases

04:17 Different States of Mind in Criminal Cases

06:42 Criminal Negligence

07:11 Case Against the Parents

08:13 Unusual Case

09:19 Desire to Prevent Mass Killings

10:18 Responsibility of Firearms Dealers and Manufacturers

11:23 Safe Storage Laws

13:42 Critique of Safe Storage Laws

18:53 Importance of Personal Responsibility

19:22 Arming Teachers

21:18 Verdict and Sentencing

29:23 Gross Negligence and Involuntary Manslaughter

32:29 Conclusion

 

Resources:

 

Video shows moment Jennifer Crumbley is found guilty of involuntary manslaughter – YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFFI_Lps4XU&t=81s

 

Jennifer Crumbley convicted in Oxford shooting deaths

https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/jennifer-crumbley-convicted-in-deaths-of-high-school-students-killed-by-her-son-in-oxford-high-school-shooting/

 

Michigan Involuntary Manslaughter Law – FindLaw

https://www.findlaw.com/state/michigan-law/michigan-involuntary-manslaughter-law.html

 

Is Guilty Verdict for School Shooter’s Mom a Precedent or an Outlier? – Bearing Arms

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024/02/07/is-guilty-verdict-for-school-shooters-mom-a-precedent-or-an-outlier-n80241

 

Model Criminal Jury Instructions – criminal-jury-instructions.pdf

https://www.courts.michigan.gov/4ad42f/siteassets/rules-instructions-administrative-orders/jury-instructions/criminal/current/criminal-jury-instructions.pdf

 

Why the Case Against Ethan Crumbley’s Parents Is So Unusual | TIME

https://time.com/6126647/crumbley-parents-charges/

 

Mens Rea – A Defendant’s Mental State – FindLaw

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-law-basics/mens-rea-a-defendant-s-mental-state.html

 

Actus Reus – FindLaw Dictionary of Legal Terms

https://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/actus-reus.html

 

Michigan Safe Storage Law

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigans-safe-storage-gun-law-begins-feb-13-what-to-know

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/safety-injury-prev/firearm-safety/secure-storage-law

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/-/media/Project/Websites/mdhhs/Safety-and-Injury-Prevention/Firearm-Safety/Firearm-Storage-Penalties.pdf?rev=530dcf33a80445c3845e764ad7b76fb4

 

John Lott re Safe Storage Laws

https://crimeresearch.org/2021/12/at-real-clear-politics-why-gun-storage-laws-would-do-more-harm-than-good/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/07/why_gun_storage_laws_would_do_more_harm_than_good_146851.html

 

 

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#personalresponsibility

#firearms

#guns

#training

#mindset

#2a

#rights

#selfdefense

#safestorage

##manslaughter

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